Live blogging tonight’s Town Hall debate

Tonight’s bets:

1. Does McCain bring up Ayers and/or Wright?

2. If he does, does Obama respond with the Keating Five?

3. Will McCain say “middle class”?  Will Obama say “victory in Iraq”?

9:00  Remember – “uncommitted” voters are not necessarily independent voters!  Many may in fact already be committed to one of the two candidates.

9:01 McCain just winked at me!

Pay attention to how the candidates move from the audience to the camera and back.

9:07 – Good opening question.  Both candidates should handle this easily.   Obama’s taking the easy route, jumping on the “golden parachute”.  Substantively meaningless, but a powerful symbol.

McCain – calls Alan by his name.  That’s a nice touch.  Notice how he bores in on the crowd.

McCain has to step up here.  And he is – this is a concrete policy proposals that viewers can understand.  Strong McCain answer.  And notice that he differentiates himself from both Obama and Bush!

Interesting question –  McCain scores again. He knows what e-bay is all about!  What old fogey?

(btw – where’s tonight’s focus group? )

9:13 – Doesn’t take Obama long to bring up the “fundamentals are sound” McCain quote.

9:15 Bailout question – gives McCain an opportunity to replay his campaign suspension…. and he does.

and now the first counterattack on Obama… this is a riff on the McCain ad linking Obama to Fannie/Freddie money.   How’s it playing when he goes on the attack.

9:18 – And now it’s Obama’s turn – it’s McCain’s fault.  My guess this exchange won’t move either side, and will leave independents still on the fence.  Nice line about “not interested in politicians pointing fingers”…

McCain’s response isn’t very detailed here beyond the plan to buy up bad mortgages.

9:22 – DId Obama just call the questioner  “cynical”?  Not smooth…

McCain should give the websites of the National Taxpayers Union and Citizen’s Against Waster.. that’d be a nice touch.

Does anyone even use overhead projectors anymore?

(Did you know that McCain has a “clear record”?)  And do you know how building nuclear plants will address entitlements (he missed a transition there).

9:29 – Just a reminder: uncommitted voters may in fact be committed to a candidate, but say they are susceptible to change.  Don’t be mislead…

9:33 – McCain uses sacrifice to attack earmarks and tout the across-the-board spending freeze.  How’s this playing?

Nice little riposte here on Obama’s “one at a time” approach.

9:35 – I guess Obama sees the handwriting on the wall for offshore drilling – that, I think, was an endorsement.   But a nice tactic more generally to tie sacrifice to the energy problem.  And a shout out to the young people – You betcha!

9:38  Very nice play here by Obama to both point out how little earmarks matter while linking McCain to tax-friendly policies to the wealthy.  Took him a while to get here, but this is nicely done.

9:39 –  McCain would be a bit more effective here if he was more specific on tax increases.

Never mind – I take it back.

John was ready for this one.

9:42  Ben Wessel picks up on the flag lapel (Obama’s wearing one, McCain’s not).

McCain has his jello line, but Obama is right back at ya with “wheels off the straight talk express”.

McCain should push back here on the dollar amount of taxes, not the percentage of income brackets getting them.    And Obama’s “solution” for entitlements leaves the door wide open.

But McCain’s no better on the specifics – hasn’t yet told us how to solve social security.  Nor for Medicare.

9:45.  Obama should bring Palin in here on the sources of global warming..

CLearly McCain has adopted the Reagan philosophy of praising American workers and maintaining an optimistic message.

Didn’t Al Gore invent the computer?

Uh oh, Obama is agreeing with McCain again…. ok, not really.

Amy – who is in the focus group? Do we know yet?

Drilling offshore is a winning issue, given the current energy climate.

Is John hogging Obama’s camera time?  What”s he doing in the background there?

10:55. Ok, health care is ripe for a good debate.

Watch Obama in the background here as McCain goes on the attack on Obama’s health care policy.

I don’t think many people in Tennessee are going to Arizone for health care, even if the plan is “better”!

A nice exchange here – substantive policy differences are actually getting aired.  This is what debates should accomplish, but rarely do.

Obama’s on a role….

10:03 – Ok, homework assignment.  Someone needs to get me the actual composition of the “uncommitted” Ohio group.

10:04 – McCain throws Obama’s words back at him (“Sen. Obama was wrong…).  McCain has to be ready to respond to Obama’s reprise of the first debate exchange on this issue.

This is an effective rejoinder by Obama here on foreign policy – notice how he links McCain back to Bush.

Actually, we did choose to standby while the Holocaust was going on….

10:08 – AGain, McCain just comes out better on these hypotheticals because he can draw on actual experiences, while – through no fault of his own – Obama simply can’t match that.  But will it change any minds?

10:12 – Katie – Great question!  When did Obama start pronouncing Pakistan with an upper-class accent?

Both Obama and McCain did about as good as they could with this question.

Ok, the “bomb, bomb, bomb” comment just doesn’t work anymore.  I’m not quite sure why Obama is going on at length here, unless his internal polls suggests McCain wins point here.  I just don’t think he wants to stay on this turf for too long.

10:22 –  One has to wonder in an election year dominated by economic issues, and with the majority of Americans, for the first time, indicating that they believe we are winning in Iraq, whether McCain (or Obama) can move any undecideds on foreign policy issues.

Ok, they agree on this one. Move on.  (Don’t you usually anticipate ahead of time?)  Obama’s slipping into platitudes here… energy is key, look around corners, be proactive, etc…

10:28 – Effective response by McCain on a nuclear Iran.

Not sure if Americans will see the link between reducing our consumption of gasoline and nuclear weapons in Iraq.  But the finish is stronger….

10:34.  Interesting question. I guess Obama is smart to ignore it and goes into the closing statement.  This is a set-piece close and he’s good at it.

Ok, dueling biographies.  McCain is reprising his convention speech here…. and he’s remembering the Tip O’Neil line: always ask for your vote!

Ok, fire away?  Did undecided in the battleground states move in either direction?

Notice Michelle working the crowd while Cindy follows John around?

NBC is currently ripping McCain on the economy, particularly McCain’s proposal to buy up home mortgages.  How’s it playing elsewhere?

On PBS, some complaints that Obama doesn’t make an “emotional connection” with viewers. On NBC, he is praised for “being cool, showing grace under pressure”.  This is why you can’t judge much by pundits.

Ok, some first impressions.  Notice not a single reference to Ayers, Wright or any personal attacks.  Both candidates stay on policy issues, with some tangential attacks on experience. But no personal character assassination.

SEcond, the McCain mortgage plan buyout is a huge policy initiative – it has to be incredibly costly – but no one seems to be paying attention.  Will the media pick up on this tomorrow?

(CBS is showing their “knowledge poll” of “uncommitted” voters which we know from previous experience is in fact not a panel of uncommitted voters, but of voters who say they may change their mind.)

Third, the impact of the “town hall” format was minimal- it wasn’t as freewheeling as some had hoped.

Fourth – we really miss Sarah Palin.  Wouldn’t you have rather seen her debate Obama?  I thought so…

Fifth – I’m guessing the audience for this debate was down significantly from the VP debate. Again, this helps Obama, doesn’t help McCain.  McCain’s really facing an uphill battle to overcome the continuing bad economic news – his best bet is to convince voters that he can address these issues. I just don’t think the media is very receptive to his mortgage housing plan.

Ok, I’m signing off. Remember my warnings: cast a critical eye on the post-debat analysis by pundits, focus groups and instant polls. Check the fine print before accepting the conclusions. It’s ok for the media to tell you who “won”, but if you are a faithful reader of this blog, you should be in a good position to scrutinize their claims.  Just because it leads the NYTimes or Washington Post doesn’t make it accurate.

Tomorrow I’ll try to get you up-to-date on the situation in the Electoral College.

Great comments tonight everyone, thanks again to everyone who participated.  We have one more to go – see you all next week!

58 comments

  1. I don’t know if I missed this from tunning in a couple of minutes late but what is the composition of the audience members, are they undecided voters? Are the questions scripted and given to the candidates beforehand to some extent?

  2. Antoinette-
    They are undecided voters with questions they wrote that Brokaw decided to let them read.

  3. Not hard to fix medicare and social security? WOW… why hasn’t it been done before now then..

  4. Did he really just say he was going to answer the question and then not give an answer at all? What are the problems and solutions for social security?! John, I’m on the edge of my couch right now!

    …now I know where Palin gets her question answering skills from…

  5. So, we’re about halfway through, but I suspect that the CNN focus group is leaning Democrat. I think Obama’s mean rating will turn out to be higher than McCain’s.

  6. John’s wandering around in the background has gotten annoying. It certainly may be an intentional tactic to undermine but I think at some point it starts to look disrespectful.

  7. I can’t believe that McCain couldn’t name a treasury secretary replacement for Paulson and then threw out Meg Whitman’s name. I know she’s a recognizable name but for all I know (I’ve read her wikipedia page) she doesn’t have ANY experience in banking, only retail business and management which makes her less qualified to be treasury secretary than some professors at our college.

  8. “judgment as to when to go in, and when not”–is that a good issue for someone who voted for a hugely unpopular war?

  9. McCain seems to me nervous and uncomfortable. His body language is not one of self confidence . Tempramentaly he does not seem reassuring, “my friends”.

  10. Composition may be a CNN secret we don’t know about. They did a description beforehand to explain who is in the response group, but I didn’t pay attention.

  11. Obama sounds a little hawkish here…is this a play to the independents who may be more willing to use military action?

  12. McCain has a lot of heroes. Too bad when Teddy was around we were fighting with sticks not bombs

  13. Note how McCain’s not even speaking with his hand microphone…What’s the point if they have the clip-on mics anyway?

  14. The U.N. seems to be irrelevant for McCain… will be interesting to see how Obama handles this question.

    Doesn’t seem like Obama’s going to address the U.N. issue.

  15. It seemed like the closing statements were equally supported by the uncommitted ohio voters. Perhaps Obama got a bit more from woman though… at least thats how it looked on my small tv.

  16. Its the opposite on CNN, big pat on the back for McCain on domestic policy while they are saying he was flat on foreign policy

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