Episode 3: We Gotta Talk About Sex

3. We Gotta Talk About Sex Feminism, Fascism, and the Future

We have to talk about sex if we are going to talk about the anti-gender movement. You see, the anti-gender movement is rooted in the belief that sex is simple- boys and girls, penises and vaginas. But actually, sex has never been that simple and rather than assuming we know what sex and gender are because they’re “obvious” we talk to one of the world’s foremost authorities on just how messy sex and gender are. In this episode, feminist writer and journalist Judith Levine talks with Rebecca Jordan Young, author of Testosterone: An Unauthorized Biography. We also talk with Julianna Neuhauser about how this right wing belief that sex is easy to understand overlaps with trans-exclusionary feminists’ “gender critical” stance. And how sometimes, the politics of believing sex is a binary can make for really strange bedfellows.

Episode 3 Interviews

Rebecca Jordan-Young

Rebecca Jordan-Young: “I am an interdisciplinary feminist scientist and science studies scholar whose work explores the reciprocal relations between science and the social hierarchies of gender, sexuality, class, and race. My recent book, Testosterone: An Unauthorized Biography, coauthored with Katrina Karkazis (Harvard 2019) upends a lot of entrenched thinking that props up hormone folklore as if it is established fact. So familiar that it can go by a single initial, T is at once a mercurial cultural figure and a specific molecule. We take aim at received wisdom about T in six domains: female reproduction, aggression, risk-taking, power, sports, and parenting. Along the way, we show how “science-y” stories about T are used to recycle stereotypes—not just about gender differences, but also class and racial distinctions. There are also quite a few good stores about how preconceived ideas about this so-called “sex hormone” can sometimes make it hard for scientists to see evidence that’s right under their noses. Testosterone won the Gold Medal in Science from the Independent Publisher Book Awards. This work was supported by the National Science Foundation and the Brocher Foundation, as well as a Guggenheim Fellowship and an American Council of Learned Societies Research Fellowship.

My first book, Brain Storm: The flaws in the science of sex differences (Harvard 2010), was the first systematic analysis of the idea that early hormone exposures “hardwire” sex differences into the human brain. Tracing definitions and measures across hundreds of studies, I found that the research overall doesn’t support the idea that human brains are “organized” for gender and sexuality by early hormone exposures. Brain Storm was awarded a Distinguished Book Award from the Association for Women in Psychology (2011) and has been translated into French (Belin Press, 2016). My essay “Homunculus in the Hormones” summarizes the argument and main findings. You can download it here.

I’m on the Board of the international Neurogenderings Network, and enjoy collaborating with colleagues in fields that range from cognitive and developmental neuroscience, developmental biology, and physical chemistry to cultural anthropology, political science, history, and sociology. I’ve published in a wide range of scholarly journals, such as Feminist Formations, Nature, Science, Neuroethics, BMJ, Trends in Cognitive Sciences, and the American Journal of Public Health, as well as popular outlets like the New York Times, The Guardian, and Discover Magazine.”

Julianna Neuhauser

Julianna Neuhouser is a transfeminine translator and writer. Her texts have been published by Revista Común, Gatopardo, Malvestida and Zona Docs. She was the coordinator of the book Polarization and transphobia: Critical looks at the advance of anti-trans and anti-gender movements in Mexico

Episode 2: How the Anti-Gender Movement Got Political

2. How the Anti-Gender Movement Got Political Feminism, Fascism, and the Future

In this episode we talk to a variety of experts on the anti-gender ideology movement. They explain its history in the Catholic Church and how it slipped into far-right political movements starting in Russia, but spreading through Europe, Latin America, and the United States. Find out why Vladimir Putin and Ron DeSantis have the same policies and why feminists, LGBTQ activists, and others are fighting back to save democracy itself.

Episode 2 Interviews

Agnieszka Graff

Agnieszka Graff is Associate Professor at the American Studies Center, University of Warsaw. She is a feminist activist and public intellectual. Her articles on gender in Polish and U.S. culture have appeared in Public CultureSigns, European Journal of Women’s Studies, Feminist Studies and East European Politics and Societies. She has authored five books of feminist essays in Polish, among them Świat bez kobiet (World without Women, 2001, anniversary edition 2021) and Matka feministka (Mother and Feminist, 2014, Spanish edition 2021). She coedited the Spring 2019 theme issue of Signs “Gender and the rise of the global right.”

Alexander Kondakov

Alexander Sasha Kondakov is Assistant Professor at the UCD School of Sociology, Ireland. His international experience includes positions at the University of Helsinki in Finland, the Woodrow Wilson Center for Scholars in Washington, DC, the University of Wisconsin–Madison in the United States and the Centre for Independent Social Research in St. Petersburg, Russia. Alexander’s career started in Russia, at the European University in St. Petersburg, where he pioneered LGBT and Queer Studies. He has extensively published in journals such as Sexualities, Social & Legal Studies and European Journal of Criminology.

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Episode 1: Introduction

In this episode, we introduce what’s coming for us. It’s fascism, pure and simple and it’s spreading across the globe. But this time fascism is against “gender ideology” as well as the usual suspects (like Jews or migrants). This new fascism blames feminism, LGBTQ activism, and gender studies for everything that’s wrong and wants to make a world without women’s rights and LGBTQ rights. If you aren’t scared of the anti-gender movement yet, you will be after listening to this.