In this episode of Machiavelli in the Ivory Tower, hosts Sarah and Hanna speak with Ankit Panda, a Stanton Senior Fellow in the Nuclear Policy Program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. They begin their wide-ranging discussion with a review of Ankit’s 2020 book “Kim Jong Un and the Bomb: Survival and Deterrence in North Korea”. Sarah, Hanna, and Ankit then engage in an exchange on current developments on the Korean Peninsula, North Korea’s cooperation with Russia, and the need to treat North Korea as a problem of nuclear risk reduction, among other issues. They end by discussing the challenges of studying North Korean nuclear weapons issues and how academia and policy-makers can most fruitfully interact.

Chapters

  • 00:00 Introduction
  • 01:09 Kim Jong Un and the Bomb: Survival and Deterrence in North Korea
  • 04:21 Worrisome developments on the Korean Peninsula in early 2024
  • 07:33 The future of North Korea-Russia cooperation
  • 11:43 North Korea and the question of nuclear testing
  • 16:20 North Korea and nuclear risk reduction (I)
  • 21:13 North Korea and nuclear risk reduction (II)
  • 25:54 Implications for nuclear threshold countries 31:40 How to study North Korea
  • 36:22 What academics and policymakers can learn from each other

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