6 comments on “What Women Want
  1. Caitlin Cali says:

    I really have to agree here. Banning a form of dress should only be considered if it is hurtful to other people. Neither the burqa or the niqab offends any more than traditional western clothing. Leaving this decision up to individual women would seem to be the most logical option. I truly believe the author hits the nail on the head with: “We must move forward into a new discourse that is neither gender or religiously exclusive.”

  2. glowingheart77 says:

    Is it not easier to objectify somebody who looks like an object (specifically, a tent) rather than a human? Changing one’s dress to accommodate men seems like a sign of weakness rather than strength. Most men in this country are not animals who cannot control themselves in the presence of a woman’s face. Covering one’s face in the US is ultimately shutting oneself off from the community. As long as safety is not being compromised (which is a real issue here) then I think it should be a woman’s right to wear what she wants, but it is also my right to think it is unnecessary, if not ridiculous.

  3. Zee says:

    I think you nailed it on the head with the last line: it all comes down to choice, something that even in the US society has trouble giving women.
    My guess is that some people crusading for the face-covering ban are doing it out of pure hatred and anti-Muslim sentiment but others think they’re helping women who have no choice but to be covered. I’ve always had a troubled relationship with the dialogue surrounding all forms of head-covering. I am an ardent believer in choice in all parts of life but at the same time I worry because I know that in some situations (I wouldn’t hazard a guess as to what percentage) it is coerced either directly though laws or indirectly through cultural norms. I think in general though it’s a strawman argument, talking about the burqa is ignoring what we really need to be having a discussion about: women’s empowerment(and multiculturalism). Let’s stop focusing on these surface issues, because if a women is truly being coerced to cover her head then we have far deeper problems that legislation won’t solve.

  4. Elisa says:

    Zee, I think you nailed it on the head. “What we really need to be having a discussion about: women’s empowerment and multiculturism.” So often the real issues are ignored in favor of what’s more dramatic or easier to have a black/white argument over.

  5. galenbepler says:

    It’s a complex issue I covered in my French class this past semester.
    Americans very well see it as ‘oppresive’, but from a French perspective having ‘ostentatious’ religious symbols – cross necklaces, veils, yamaka – is ‘oppressive’. Their freedom is considered to be FROM religion in public places. Our freedom is considered to be FOR religious expression in public places. It doesn’t take much imagination to understand this if you look at France’s history, the country experienced tireless religious war – mostly between protestants and catholics – from the 1400 to the 1700s – that was extremely bloody and often linked to maintaining the incumbent monarchy (e.g. Saint Barthelomew’s Massacre; Revocation of the Edict of Nantes).
    However, none of this context will help the French National Assembly draft a law prohibiting the veil that will not be under intense scrutiny from Europe’s Council on Human Rights. It doesn’t seem to me from what I read that the French have yet figured out a law that will pass Europe’s Human Rights standards. But, they are working on it. It will be interesting to see what happens.
    It’s also worth noting that France has done a terrible job at integrating its legal immigrants. Many and most of the unemployment rate can be attributed to 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants – mostly from Northern & Western Africa. This probably has to do with France’s extremely rigid labor market. And, it’s exacerbated by feelings of classism and elitism that seem to exist in French society, which is often expressed as ‘true french’, read ‘white french’. Is the increase in xenophobia in France a result of all these factors; or have all these factors helped to create a sentiment of xenophobia? In any case, all this does not bode well for France. And, it’s unfortunate to see from my perspective as a lover of France and French culture and language how unenlightened France has become on social issues. I used to dream of living in France, but now it is not so appealing.

  6. lo says:

    In America, since the beginning of The War On Terror I have noticed young Muslim women are covering their heads. This seems to be a trend even when the young women are from moderate families. I take this as a sign of them claiming their culture in a time of war. It can even be seen as a form of protest.
    I think women cover for all different reasons. Sometimes they have no choice and sometimes they do.
    As a moderate Muslim woman I do not believe in veiling or the burqa/hijab etc. I was quick to judge it in the past.
    But now I don’t. I’ve seen it be used as a sign of pride.
    I find this conversation very interesting. And I agree with everyone that the real discussion should be about women having the power to choose. The veil is a symbol – traditionally used by men to control/protect women and today it’s a symbol that women use in modern societies.

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