Monthly Archives: October 2008

Starksboro

Hey all,

I am driving to Starksboro tomorrow morning at 10:30- Chester and Christian and my sister should be tagging along, but I’m not sure about anyone else… As it is, we have 1 spot left since I haven’t heard back yet from Nathan or Robert.

See you all and Happy HALLOWEEN!

Alena

Interview with Jennifer Turner

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I interviewed Jennifer Turner on October 21st in her beautiful home in the hills surrounding Starksboro. Interestingly, she, like Caroline Camara, was influenced by the ocean in her life as an environmentalist and outdoors person. Our discussion ranged from the recycling program she helped start in Starksboro to her experiences traveling abroad.

0:30 Turner grew up on the Massachusetts coast, where she had a strong interest in swimming and fishing in the ocean. She became attracted to science through these interactions with the outdoors. She would later mention that school wasn’t a great outlet for her fascination with natural history and ecology.

1:20 After finishing college, Turner lived with a family on a farm in southern Vermont as a sort of homesteading experience. She learned to garden, run a woodstove efficiently, and operate a saw mill.

6:30 When she met her first husband in Vermont, they both discovered they had a great interest in boats and wanted to go sailing. The couple sailed across the Atlantic and the Mediterranean, making it as far as Turkey. Turner remembers swimming with sperm whales in the Mediterranean as a special experience, although she admits that she and her husband didn’t get along well during the trip. However, the ancient cultures of Europe made a mark on Turner. “The richness of the culture was great for me to see,” she said.

12:00 After returning to the United States and separating from her first husband, she enrolled at the University of New Hampshire to study botany. She then met her current spouse, who was studying forestry at the time. The two then went to the University of Vermont in Burlington to complete graduate work in their chosen fields.

14:20 When they found a house in Starksboro, Turner realized that this was the perfect place to raise a family. The community was mixed, friendly, and safe.

15:40 In the late 1980s, Vermont passed a recycling law to reduce solid waste. Turner became involved in the local recycling program, which had limited funds and very little equipment. The effort slowly evolved until they could offer single-stream recycling, which increased the program’s popularity and efficacy.

24:30 Recycling is logistically difficult in rural areas with low population densities. First, many people still believe in the waste mentality and don’t see much difference between throwing something out and recycling it. Second, economic feasibility is limited because a hauler has to drive far to pick up a small number of items.

40:30 Turner’s daughter left school at the age of 15 to pursue alternative activities. She enrolled in a Folk School in Norway, which emphasized outdoor education and the mastery of traditional disciplines such as woodwork. This model of experimental education worked well for her daughter, and she then earned good money by working on several small dairy farms in rural Norway. When Turner visited her daughter, she “didn’t want to come home.”

50:35 As for Starksboro memories, Turner mentioned Gary Orvis. She describes Orvis as one of the main “characters” of the town. He is extremely creative with machinery and once made a wood-splitter that can handle seven logs at a time and place them on a conveyor belt for transport. His office is a collection of unusual equipment, grease, and cigarette smoke.

58:26 Turner recounted her experience winter camping at Ausable Lake in the Adirondacks. She used a poncho as a sail to travel across a frozen lake. “You go pretty fast,” she joked. We shared stories about various camping and boating trips in Adirondack Park.

1:04:50 As she gets older, Turner wants to develop her hobbies more. She mentioned forestry and woodworking as two activities she is currently pursuing. She has been working on creating trails for hiking and skiing.

1:08:38 We discussed the transition of Vermont’s agriculture from a traditional model to a boutique model that emphasizes sustainability and high-quality products. Turner emphasized the need to stay local and her joy at the expansion of farmers’ markets.

1:14:15 Turner would like to do some more traveling now. She wants to visit Greece again, as she feels each island has its own identity and a strong sense of local pride. Turkey is also on her mind, a place with a great diversity of landscapes and ethnicities.

Becky Fifield interview

I was given a lead to interview Becky Fifield by Linda Barnard. I thought the interview went well, but I didn’t let it go as long as some of my other interviews. I do think it was useful to interview Becky, but so far it might be my least rich interview in terms of Starksboro material. She actually lives in Middlebury at Border Acres Farm, but she grew up in Starksboro. She actually gave me some great print material such as her memories of the Jerusalem Schoolhouse and a history of the Orvis family back to when they first arrived in Starksboro. Actually, looking back though, Starksboro seems to mean more to her than some of the others that I’ve interviewed that actually still live there. And I’m not going to lie, I was quite excited to see the farm which is probably the closest one to the college. 

Becky Fifield timestamp:

1:00 first memories of Starksboro with a pet deer

3:00: father buys a farm in Starksboro 

 6:00: history of Orvis family in Starksboro

11:00: memories of Jerusalem Schoolhouse

 17:00: memories of living with Agnes Orvis during high school 

24:00: reflects on receiving a lot of letters from her future husband while he was in Germany after the Korean War

31:00: how Starksboro has changed (told through the influx of houses on Little Ireland Road)

34:30: every year Becky has to go see the leaves in South Starksboro

35:40: reflection on how Starksboro’s farms used to employ so many extra hands

38:45: “it’s a bedroom community for Chittenden County”

41:00: trying to keep Starksboro a community

Interview with Kathy and Barbara

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This was definitely my favorite interview so far. Unfortunately there is a bad background noise, and Barbara is not very loud. I conducted the interview in Barbara Farr’s house which her recently deceased husband built by himself in the 1960s. Kathy knows so much about her family’s history which is perhaps the most striking thing. Barbara’s family arrived in Starksboro in 1803, and Kathy remembers such neat little details. It was also a sad interview because Barbara’s husband died this summer and as she said, “I’m not storyteller, but boy he was was.” Also, Barbara’s father died when she was 12 in a car accident (at the Lord’s Prayer rock), and her mother essentially left her She has a very interesting story to tell, but it was difficult because I had never quite encountered this situation before. Kathy also knows her mom’s whole story, and she loves to supplement the story when her mother leaves out some details. Kathy is definitely someone that I could spend hours talking with. She brought up a really good point about the main sense of community has been lost. The change in town meeting attendance was something she really stressed. I really feel like the last fifteen minutes are most valuable. If there more Kathys around in Starksboro, I think that the sense of community could come back. 

Kathy and Barabara timestamping:

3:48: Kathy describes her dad building her childhood home (where we had the interview), her dad remembered many years later which tree each board came from

10:00: Kathy describes the importance of family being nearby and building a sense of community

17:00: Barbara talks about meeting her husband at Christian Endeavor, but they actually didn’t get married for quite some time

21:00 Kathy talks about her dad’s family

24:30: Kathy talks about food as a child, how almost everything came from their own land; she didn’t know vegetables came in cans until high school

29:00: Kathy and Barbara talk about being grandparents

34:00 Barbara reminds Kathy that she went to college in Vermont for a year

38:00 Kathy describes how amazing it was being on the road with her husband as a truck driver for almost seven years

42:00 Barbara talks about what she did for fun as a child in Starksboro

46:30: Kathy hopes her grandchildren will come live in Vermont

47:00 Kathy shares what has changed about Starksboro; everyone knew everyone and helped each other out without asking questions

49:00 Barbara truly believes that both the husband and wife working has really changed the sense of community

51:00 Kathy really wants to see that sense of community come back, especially with regards to town meeting

55:30: Kathy talks about reaching out to those who are not involved

1:00:00: Kathy talks about how the youth are so distant