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	<title>Comments on: (Over)Promoting Middlebury?</title>
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	<description>Ron Liebowitz is the 16th president of Middlebury College</description>
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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am heartsick to read about the Hispanic student who cheated to gain admission to Middlebury, when I know of an incredible young (white) woman waitlisted who would bring so much to the school. How could this happen, and more importantly, is Diana able to do Middlebury work? How unfortunate for all, including Diana, if she cannot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am heartsick to read about the Hispanic student who cheated to gain admission to Middlebury, when I know of an incredible young (white) woman waitlisted who would bring so much to the school. How could this happen, and more importantly, is Diana able to do Middlebury work? How unfortunate for all, including Diana, if she cannot.</p>
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		<title>By: Leila G.Tupman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leila G.Tupman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 02:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The thing I really resent is the combination of the following:  what a superior student body Middlebury has compared  to the  mediocre clods  we were;  how the current leadership is trying to promote this newly wonderful and expensive institution by an email a day and a letterhead that looks like a Canadian athletic team&#039;s ; what stupid decisions have been  made by trustees who have allowed the location of the  &quot;Natatorium&quot; and that group of prison barracks near the Chateau in exchange for dollars for what appears to be merely visionary global importance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing I really resent is the combination of the following:  what a superior student body Middlebury has compared  to the  mediocre clods  we were;  how the current leadership is trying to promote this newly wonderful and expensive institution by an email a day and a letterhead that looks like a Canadian athletic team&#8217;s ; what stupid decisions have been  made by trustees who have allowed the location of the  &#8220;Natatorium&#8221; and that group of prison barracks near the Chateau in exchange for dollars for what appears to be merely visionary global importance.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I say, &quot;Promote onward!&quot;  There is no such thing as too much favorable public relations outreach, on behalf of future grads, recent grads or very old grads -- and on behalf of faculty and research.  One never knows where a positive promotional seed might germinate.  If the president (and we, as alums/parents) ever quit scattering seeds, the next crops will be weaker and weaker and will eventually wither away.  

The president&#039;s promotional message might seem overdone to those of us who hear it a lot or who are predisposed to notice it, but out in the real world many folks have never heard it before, so the Middlebury message bears repeating.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say, &#8220;Promote onward!&#8221;  There is no such thing as too much favorable public relations outreach, on behalf of future grads, recent grads or very old grads &#8212; and on behalf of faculty and research.  One never knows where a positive promotional seed might germinate.  If the president (and we, as alums/parents) ever quit scattering seeds, the next crops will be weaker and weaker and will eventually wither away.  </p>
<p>The president&#8217;s promotional message might seem overdone to those of us who hear it a lot or who are predisposed to notice it, but out in the real world many folks have never heard it before, so the Middlebury message bears repeating.</p>
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		<title>By: Kofi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kofi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Dec 2010 00:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[attract more high achieving students and professors whose appetite for success has not been sated]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>attract more high achieving students and professors whose appetite for success has not been sated</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Dec 2010 00:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am in Ghana, West Africa and I am aware of Middlebury. I am in the process of applying for fall 2011 admissions. Personally I am not averse to promoting the brand of a college at all as long as it is done in good taste. Promoting the school and the accomplishments of students and faculty would surely]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in Ghana, West Africa and I am aware of Middlebury. I am in the process of applying for fall 2011 admissions. Personally I am not averse to promoting the brand of a college at all as long as it is done in good taste. Promoting the school and the accomplishments of students and faculty would surely</p>
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		<title>By: Molley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Molley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 06:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like what the previous poster wrote about the distinctive posture. 

Thanks for posing this question, President Liebowitz. 
As a young alum, I have some questions: what portion of midd students go directly into grad school? If a majority of the students do so, then I think publicizing needs to take the backburner--most grad schools know about us (is that safe to say??). If, however, most get thrown into the proverbial lion&#039;s den of a job market, then yes, Midd needs to get the word out, and quick. Unemployment is crazy!

Some other questions: do you think Midd generally lacks qualified candidates? I think that, for a small town in Freezing, VT, Midd does a phenomenal job of attracting the best of the best of professors, students, and staff. Anyone who does even a little research will become aware of Midd. So as far as improving educational opportunities goes, a healthy program of attraction rather than promotion makes more sense to me. 

 I personally heard of Midd from a family friend. So I think the best kind of publicity Midd can engage in is to continue doing what it&#039;s been doing. The world will learn what and who we are from 1st degree testimonials like my own. 

The comment above about the right kind of publicity (ie Time Magazine) is also great-- a colleague told me Midd was on ESPN and I thought, &quot;Quidditch?&quot; It turns out he was talking about Butch&#039;s story. Butch is all the publicity we need.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like what the previous poster wrote about the distinctive posture. </p>
<p>Thanks for posing this question, President Liebowitz.<br />
As a young alum, I have some questions: what portion of midd students go directly into grad school? If a majority of the students do so, then I think publicizing needs to take the backburner&#8211;most grad schools know about us (is that safe to say??). If, however, most get thrown into the proverbial lion&#8217;s den of a job market, then yes, Midd needs to get the word out, and quick. Unemployment is crazy!</p>
<p>Some other questions: do you think Midd generally lacks qualified candidates? I think that, for a small town in Freezing, VT, Midd does a phenomenal job of attracting the best of the best of professors, students, and staff. Anyone who does even a little research will become aware of Midd. So as far as improving educational opportunities goes, a healthy program of attraction rather than promotion makes more sense to me. </p>
<p> I personally heard of Midd from a family friend. So I think the best kind of publicity Midd can engage in is to continue doing what it&#8217;s been doing. The world will learn what and who we are from 1st degree testimonials like my own. </p>
<p>The comment above about the right kind of publicity (ie Time Magazine) is also great&#8211; a colleague told me Midd was on ESPN and I thought, &#8220;Quidditch?&#8221; It turns out he was talking about Butch&#8217;s story. Butch is all the publicity we need.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 15:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not an alum, but fully aware of the equity that a Middlebury diploma delivers as one of the finest educational institutions in the country. You own a distinctive posture. As an alum, would you really want to work for an employer that WASN&#039;T aware of Middlebury? Great topic and timely for higher ed in general. All the best in your endeavors.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not an alum, but fully aware of the equity that a Middlebury diploma delivers as one of the finest educational institutions in the country. You own a distinctive posture. As an alum, would you really want to work for an employer that WASN&#8217;T aware of Middlebury? Great topic and timely for higher ed in general. All the best in your endeavors.</p>
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		<title>By: stephen w.</title>
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		<dc:creator>stephen w.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2010 15:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I once asked my father, an attorney, why his firm did not advertise on TV as other lawyers did. His response? Never hire a lawyer who advertises.  While I see his point and I think it in principle applies to colleges and universities, it should be said that his firm now buys small ad space in certain environments, particularly non-profit publications. The world is changing.

I am sympathetic to students&#039; concerns around over-promotion -- I think branding often represents reducing oneself to the lowest common denominator and selling out -- but my guess is that we as an institution have a long way to go before we get there. Many Eastern schools are not widely known on the West Coast, including my alma mater, Brown. Indeed, my guess is that outside of a &quot;Big 4&quot; -- Harvard, Yale, Princeton and Stanford -- the only schools with truly national name recognition are state universities and major sports schools (e.g., Duke, USC). 

For better or worse, name recognition and reputation help in the job market -- when meeting with HR people who *had* heard of Brown, I often still had to counter its reputation as the &quot;easy Ivy.&quot; The more we can do to bolster the name recognition of Middlebury, the stronger the institutional &quot;letter of recommendation&quot; we will be giving our students.

At the same time, I am personally uneasy about the never-ending quest for the &quot;very best students.&quot; It&#039;s not that we don&#039;t want the strongest applicant pool and student body we can recruit or that Middlebury necessarily engages in the admissions arms race that has led many schools to boast of the percentage of valedictorians in their incoming classes, among other troubling metrics -- I haven&#039;t been at Midd long enough to have an opinion on that subject. I only mean to say that while I don&#039;t see the institution as over-marketed now, that doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s not something to keep in mind as we move forward.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I once asked my father, an attorney, why his firm did not advertise on TV as other lawyers did. His response? Never hire a lawyer who advertises.  While I see his point and I think it in principle applies to colleges and universities, it should be said that his firm now buys small ad space in certain environments, particularly non-profit publications. The world is changing.</p>
<p>I am sympathetic to students&#8217; concerns around over-promotion &#8212; I think branding often represents reducing oneself to the lowest common denominator and selling out &#8212; but my guess is that we as an institution have a long way to go before we get there. Many Eastern schools are not widely known on the West Coast, including my alma mater, Brown. Indeed, my guess is that outside of a &#8220;Big 4&#8243; &#8212; Harvard, Yale, Princeton and Stanford &#8212; the only schools with truly national name recognition are state universities and major sports schools (e.g., Duke, USC). </p>
<p>For better or worse, name recognition and reputation help in the job market &#8212; when meeting with HR people who *had* heard of Brown, I often still had to counter its reputation as the &#8220;easy Ivy.&#8221; The more we can do to bolster the name recognition of Middlebury, the stronger the institutional &#8220;letter of recommendation&#8221; we will be giving our students.</p>
<p>At the same time, I am personally uneasy about the never-ending quest for the &#8220;very best students.&#8221; It&#8217;s not that we don&#8217;t want the strongest applicant pool and student body we can recruit or that Middlebury necessarily engages in the admissions arms race that has led many schools to boast of the percentage of valedictorians in their incoming classes, among other troubling metrics &#8212; I haven&#8217;t been at Midd long enough to have an opinion on that subject. I only mean to say that while I don&#8217;t see the institution as over-marketed now, that doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s not something to keep in mind as we move forward.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Trauner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Trauner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2010 13:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[my 2 cents (and probably worth just about that much) - 

I have always been a fan of what I like to call a &quot;zero-based marketing budget&quot; - which means using public relations (e.g. articles, profiles, etc) as a means to building awareness without seeming to be overly promotional.  We used to joke in our business that our pr consisted of talking to reporters once in a while and hoping that they said a few nice words....(we were a bit more structured than that, had a pr agency on retainer - but nobody knew that).

My guess is you got more mileage out of the TIME magazine profile (I think it was TIME?)  than most of other venues.

Short conclusion - a zen like approach may work - market without making it obvious that marketing is exactly what you are doing....

Regards...Keith T.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my 2 cents (and probably worth just about that much) &#8211; </p>
<p>I have always been a fan of what I like to call a &#8220;zero-based marketing budget&#8221; &#8211; which means using public relations (e.g. articles, profiles, etc) as a means to building awareness without seeming to be overly promotional.  We used to joke in our business that our pr consisted of talking to reporters once in a while and hoping that they said a few nice words&#8230;.(we were a bit more structured than that, had a pr agency on retainer &#8211; but nobody knew that).</p>
<p>My guess is you got more mileage out of the TIME magazine profile (I think it was TIME?)  than most of other venues.</p>
<p>Short conclusion &#8211; a zen like approach may work &#8211; market without making it obvious that marketing is exactly what you are doing&#8230;.</p>
<p>Regards&#8230;Keith T.</p>
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		<title>By: Things That Happened, Things To Do—Week of October 18 - Middlebury Magazine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Things That Happened, Things To Do—Week of October 18 - Middlebury Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Ron Liebowitz wants to know: what are the pros and cons of promoting or marketing the College? [...]]]></description>
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