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	<title>Comments on: How Should We Eat?</title>
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		<title>By: '11 student</title>
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		<dc:creator>'11 student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 23:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry I am a bit late on this, but I just want to throw in another voice to the chorus of people emphasizing the importance of the dining halls&#039; informal nature. The lack of checkers, the unlimited availability, the friendly staff, the long hall hours - the dining halls are a beautifully designed system and one of the best parts of Middlebury. I believe this atmosphere extends to a general feeling of openness, inclusivity and freedom on campus that I value incredibly highly. As a tour guide, I also know that there is nothing that makes such a big and lasting impression on visiting students as this unique openness. Again, it really does set a tone for the whole community. Thank you very much for asking for our imput.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I am a bit late on this, but I just want to throw in another voice to the chorus of people emphasizing the importance of the dining halls&#8217; informal nature. The lack of checkers, the unlimited availability, the friendly staff, the long hall hours &#8211; the dining halls are a beautifully designed system and one of the best parts of Middlebury. I believe this atmosphere extends to a general feeling of openness, inclusivity and freedom on campus that I value incredibly highly. As a tour guide, I also know that there is nothing that makes such a big and lasting impression on visiting students as this unique openness. Again, it really does set a tone for the whole community. Thank you very much for asking for our imput.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris '13</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris '13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 15:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that the dining hall system at Middlebury is a unique, awesome factor. I think that changing the way it operates would diminish the bonding that occurs between the students over something that everyone can enjoy - food. If swiping is necessary, then so be it - however, I believe the costs of this system could begin to outweigh the savings. I would prefer to see the swiping system, etc. implemented over a change in quality of the food and the unlimited nature of the current meal plan.
I also agree with Jackie (above) that altering the food offerings could be a way to reduce costs - less meats, we do have a lot of roast beef. Offering more vegetables, especially those with high amounts of protein, and less meats would help save money and reduce our footprint. But don&#039;t get rid of apple pie or chocolate bread pudding!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the dining hall system at Middlebury is a unique, awesome factor. I think that changing the way it operates would diminish the bonding that occurs between the students over something that everyone can enjoy &#8211; food. If swiping is necessary, then so be it &#8211; however, I believe the costs of this system could begin to outweigh the savings. I would prefer to see the swiping system, etc. implemented over a change in quality of the food and the unlimited nature of the current meal plan.<br />
I also agree with Jackie (above) that altering the food offerings could be a way to reduce costs &#8211; less meats, we do have a lot of roast beef. Offering more vegetables, especially those with high amounts of protein, and less meats would help save money and reduce our footprint. But don&#8217;t get rid of apple pie or chocolate bread pudding!</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie '07</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackie '07</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 21:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Want to save money on dining?

Serve less meat.

It&#039;s a pretty simple equation, and I&#039;m surprised it hasn&#039;t been suggested before.  Cutting down on meat would both drastically reduce Midd&#039;s meal spending and create a policy more in line with Middlebury&#039;s social values.  Midd is vehemently proud of its environmental record, but the fact that copious amounts of meat are served every day in the dining halls is constantly overlooked.  For all of the pats on the back the college gives itself for its local vegetables, Midd still imports its meat from Tyson Foods, America&#039;s largest meat processor with one of the worst environmental records of any company in history.  More generally speaking, the meat industry is responsible for singlehandedly emitting more greenhouse gases than the entire transportation sector combined.  (ref:  United Nations Food and Agriculture Report 2006)

There is no reason Midd kids need to be offered a choice between chicken, hamburgers, and Alaskan salmon every night at dinner.  Limit your offerings to one animal protein per dining hall per meal, and you will save thousands of dollars on dining costs.  The environmental reward speaks for itself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Want to save money on dining?</p>
<p>Serve less meat.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a pretty simple equation, and I&#8217;m surprised it hasn&#8217;t been suggested before.  Cutting down on meat would both drastically reduce Midd&#8217;s meal spending and create a policy more in line with Middlebury&#8217;s social values.  Midd is vehemently proud of its environmental record, but the fact that copious amounts of meat are served every day in the dining halls is constantly overlooked.  For all of the pats on the back the college gives itself for its local vegetables, Midd still imports its meat from Tyson Foods, America&#8217;s largest meat processor with one of the worst environmental records of any company in history.  More generally speaking, the meat industry is responsible for singlehandedly emitting more greenhouse gases than the entire transportation sector combined.  (ref:  United Nations Food and Agriculture Report 2006)</p>
<p>There is no reason Midd kids need to be offered a choice between chicken, hamburgers, and Alaskan salmon every night at dinner.  Limit your offerings to one animal protein per dining hall per meal, and you will save thousands of dollars on dining costs.  The environmental reward speaks for itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Molley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Molley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 01:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, I just wanted to note that last year, the budget for replacing dishes was about $49,000. 
It&#039;s been a while since I actually did all the research but the year that Midd spent $75,000 replacing dishes seemed to be an anomaly. So I don&#039;t think it&#039;s fair to say that dish &quot;borrowing&quot; has followed a pattern of getting better. It&#039;s an issue and will continue to be an issue until it&#039;s addressed institutionally.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I just wanted to note that last year, the budget for replacing dishes was about $49,000.<br />
It&#8217;s been a while since I actually did all the research but the year that Midd spent $75,000 replacing dishes seemed to be an anomaly. So I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s fair to say that dish &#8220;borrowing&#8221; has followed a pattern of getting better. It&#8217;s an issue and will continue to be an issue until it&#8217;s addressed institutionally.</p>
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		<title>By: Molley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Molley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 01:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yay people are talking about missing dishes!]]></description>
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		<title>By: Ronald Liebowitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronald Liebowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 13:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MiddParent: thank you for this post. No bait and switch intended.  Maybe a switch, or a &quot;choice&quot; among many options within our current, and unique meal plan, but that has been what discussions the past 18 months or so have been like: what about Middlebury is central/core to the education (inside and outside the classroom) Middlebury students receive, what is not, and what is beyond the &quot;norm&quot; in terms of cost or at least what our students perceive as worth or not worth the additional costs.

There have been estimates by dining of how much of a premium Middlebury&#039;s current meal plan set-up costs, but ironically, without checkers or card swipes, they are only estimates.  But we know there is a significant incremental cost that needs to be evaluated in terms of value to students.

As for dishes: I don&#039;t know how long your experience with Middlebury is, but the missing dish situation is not new, and is most certainly tied to having no checkers or any kind of system at the dining halls to minimize or stop students from leaving with utensils and dishes.  Before we moved to &quot;no checkers,&quot; this problem did not exist.  And many have tried to address the situation over the past decade, including the dining services folks, student groups, the SGA, residential staff, etc.  Any and all solutions have thus far relied upon the goodwill of those taking the dishes, and though the amount of missing dishes has seemed to have declined over the years (from a once-high, I believe, of $70,000/year to around $30,000 today), it is still a problem that frustrates many on campus and is dealt with elsewhere by having some kind of checker system in place.  We have had collection days in the past (in different forms, sponsored by different groups), and the debates that surrounded the missing dishes (among students), and the disrespect students feel it represents, were often heated.

So I don&#039;t propose our look at dining as any kind of &quot;bait and switch,&quot; but rather a realization that whatever we decide to continue that carries a premium to it (if the system were viewed as the best system by our peers --- and by best I mean weighing the costs and benefits --- we would not be the only school with it), and is one of many, many things we need to look at as part of the long process of looking at how we are using our resources.  Any aspect of Middlebury that has had to change as a result of the changed financial situation could make a similar claim of baiting and switching; I don&#039;t see the &quot;baiting&quot; here, but admit we might need to &quot;switch&quot; some of the things we do on campus.  And perhaps not the meal plan, but it is always better to hear more than less from students about what makes what we do either more important or less important than we might think.

I welcome (and I know many students) would welcome some ideas for that fun campaign to reduce the missing dishing problem.

Thanks for your post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MiddParent: thank you for this post. No bait and switch intended.  Maybe a switch, or a &#8220;choice&#8221; among many options within our current, and unique meal plan, but that has been what discussions the past 18 months or so have been like: what about Middlebury is central/core to the education (inside and outside the classroom) Middlebury students receive, what is not, and what is beyond the &#8220;norm&#8221; in terms of cost or at least what our students perceive as worth or not worth the additional costs.</p>
<p>There have been estimates by dining of how much of a premium Middlebury&#8217;s current meal plan set-up costs, but ironically, without checkers or card swipes, they are only estimates.  But we know there is a significant incremental cost that needs to be evaluated in terms of value to students.</p>
<p>As for dishes: I don&#8217;t know how long your experience with Middlebury is, but the missing dish situation is not new, and is most certainly tied to having no checkers or any kind of system at the dining halls to minimize or stop students from leaving with utensils and dishes.  Before we moved to &#8220;no checkers,&#8221; this problem did not exist.  And many have tried to address the situation over the past decade, including the dining services folks, student groups, the SGA, residential staff, etc.  Any and all solutions have thus far relied upon the goodwill of those taking the dishes, and though the amount of missing dishes has seemed to have declined over the years (from a once-high, I believe, of $70,000/year to around $30,000 today), it is still a problem that frustrates many on campus and is dealt with elsewhere by having some kind of checker system in place.  We have had collection days in the past (in different forms, sponsored by different groups), and the debates that surrounded the missing dishes (among students), and the disrespect students feel it represents, were often heated.</p>
<p>So I don&#8217;t propose our look at dining as any kind of &#8220;bait and switch,&#8221; but rather a realization that whatever we decide to continue that carries a premium to it (if the system were viewed as the best system by our peers &#8212; and by best I mean weighing the costs and benefits &#8212; we would not be the only school with it), and is one of many, many things we need to look at as part of the long process of looking at how we are using our resources.  Any aspect of Middlebury that has had to change as a result of the changed financial situation could make a similar claim of baiting and switching; I don&#8217;t see the &#8220;baiting&#8221; here, but admit we might need to &#8220;switch&#8221; some of the things we do on campus.  And perhaps not the meal plan, but it is always better to hear more than less from students about what makes what we do either more important or less important than we might think.</p>
<p>I welcome (and I know many students) would welcome some ideas for that fun campaign to reduce the missing dishing problem.</p>
<p>Thanks for your post.</p>
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		<title>By: Midd Parent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Midd Parent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 02:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unless there has been a comprehensive study that can somehow accurately account for the number of people eating for &quot;free&quot; and the related financial ramifications of that, changing the meal plan in any way at this point would be very premature.  Beyond the fact that the sense of community is touted by the College and substantiated by the students in many of the above posts, breaking out a meal plan from the comprehensive fee could serve to undermine the promise of CPI + 1, which would be very disingenuous to both students and those who pay their tuitions, their parents.  Seems to me it&#039;s a nice back door to say one thing and do something completely different. What&#039;s next?  Different rates for various dorm rooms based on size and location as to have a true room and board fee separate from tuition?  You can hold tuition to CPI+1 but then jack those rates however much you want?  Beyond the bait and switch of the idea, it is also my opinion that whatever diversity you will have created in the last 40 or so years, you will risk wiping it out, especially socio-economic diversity.  

Yes, implement some measures.  I think having a person or two checking ID&#039;s, with no penalty for going to another dining hall in the same evening offers no swiping per say, will at least establish a protocol for needing to pay for guests eating in the dining halls.  I don&#039;t think guests mind paying for a meal, but to jump ahead to creating a sliding meal plan is changing the culture of the school based on little in the way of hard numbers. And too.. your dish problem is not to be solved by creating a meal plan.  Those are apples and oranges to my thinking.  Certainly, a push to create a workable solution to get plates back to the dining halls (collection days,etc), should be put in place.  But I don&#039;t believe there are a ton of kids there who are intentionally rude or thieving (especially of dishware) and so I&#039;d like to think that a concentrated and fun campaign to bring the dishes home could be successful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless there has been a comprehensive study that can somehow accurately account for the number of people eating for &#8220;free&#8221; and the related financial ramifications of that, changing the meal plan in any way at this point would be very premature.  Beyond the fact that the sense of community is touted by the College and substantiated by the students in many of the above posts, breaking out a meal plan from the comprehensive fee could serve to undermine the promise of CPI + 1, which would be very disingenuous to both students and those who pay their tuitions, their parents.  Seems to me it&#8217;s a nice back door to say one thing and do something completely different. What&#8217;s next?  Different rates for various dorm rooms based on size and location as to have a true room and board fee separate from tuition?  You can hold tuition to CPI+1 but then jack those rates however much you want?  Beyond the bait and switch of the idea, it is also my opinion that whatever diversity you will have created in the last 40 or so years, you will risk wiping it out, especially socio-economic diversity.  </p>
<p>Yes, implement some measures.  I think having a person or two checking ID&#8217;s, with no penalty for going to another dining hall in the same evening offers no swiping per say, will at least establish a protocol for needing to pay for guests eating in the dining halls.  I don&#8217;t think guests mind paying for a meal, but to jump ahead to creating a sliding meal plan is changing the culture of the school based on little in the way of hard numbers. And too.. your dish problem is not to be solved by creating a meal plan.  Those are apples and oranges to my thinking.  Certainly, a push to create a workable solution to get plates back to the dining halls (collection days,etc), should be put in place.  But I don&#8217;t believe there are a ton of kids there who are intentionally rude or thieving (especially of dishware) and so I&#8217;d like to think that a concentrated and fun campaign to bring the dishes home could be successful.</p>
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		<title>By: Middlebury 2012</title>
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		<dc:creator>Middlebury 2012</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe we should make guests pay when they visit. While I like the idea of letting friends in for free, I believe that if guests were to pay we would make a significant contribution towards dining dollars. Especially during J-term and breaks often students from other colleges visit Middlebury - if they were to pay for the three meals they eat per day, Middlebury would get a total of $21 per person per day, which would be a significant financial benefit. Of course, most people would chose to eat elsewhere or only eat one meal with their friends, and some would not come. But especially with campus tours this could be a significant way to earn money. I know many people remember their days as a prospie visiting Middlebury and liking the free food, but how much would that change if they were charged for food? Admissions could give out one free meal pass to each student on a tour and their parent could pay. Most parents who are touring Midd would be happy to do this, and when I generally see two or three parents per meal, this could be another way to earn money. Students would like to use the free meal pass and they would get the experience of eating in the Middlebury dining hall, something I believe is critical, but we could still charge parents, because either way they are traveling a long way from home and must eat, so they could either pay for them and their child to eat in town, or just both eat on campus and pay for only one.

In the other note - we need a solution to dishes! I ALWAYS bring back my dishes and often collect random dishes on campus that I see to bring back. There is a huge problem right now in Proctor about dishes. Perhaps if there were more options for plastic dish ware but we are not allowed to take dishes out of the dining hall? Or to save even more money, if we could ONLY take food out of the dining hall in our own container? Provide each student with a thermos and nalgene when they get to midd and allow them to take food out in that, but in nothing else? Trying to come up with ideas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe we should make guests pay when they visit. While I like the idea of letting friends in for free, I believe that if guests were to pay we would make a significant contribution towards dining dollars. Especially during J-term and breaks often students from other colleges visit Middlebury &#8211; if they were to pay for the three meals they eat per day, Middlebury would get a total of $21 per person per day, which would be a significant financial benefit. Of course, most people would chose to eat elsewhere or only eat one meal with their friends, and some would not come. But especially with campus tours this could be a significant way to earn money. I know many people remember their days as a prospie visiting Middlebury and liking the free food, but how much would that change if they were charged for food? Admissions could give out one free meal pass to each student on a tour and their parent could pay. Most parents who are touring Midd would be happy to do this, and when I generally see two or three parents per meal, this could be another way to earn money. Students would like to use the free meal pass and they would get the experience of eating in the Middlebury dining hall, something I believe is critical, but we could still charge parents, because either way they are traveling a long way from home and must eat, so they could either pay for them and their child to eat in town, or just both eat on campus and pay for only one.</p>
<p>In the other note &#8211; we need a solution to dishes! I ALWAYS bring back my dishes and often collect random dishes on campus that I see to bring back. There is a huge problem right now in Proctor about dishes. Perhaps if there were more options for plastic dish ware but we are not allowed to take dishes out of the dining hall? Or to save even more money, if we could ONLY take food out of the dining hall in our own container? Provide each student with a thermos and nalgene when they get to midd and allow them to take food out in that, but in nothing else? Trying to come up with ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: economic current events</title>
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		<dc:creator>economic current events</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>Your topic Sioux Falls Seminary was interesting when I found it on Tuesday searching for economic current events&#8230;</p>
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		<dc:creator>live longer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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Your topic Keaton shorts, La Dolce Vita, You the Living &amp; more ... was interesting when I found it on Monday searching for live longer...]]></description>
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