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		<title>By: Carrie Macfarlane</title>
		<link>http://sites.middlebury.edu/lis/2009/10/15/feedback-on-outline-for-new-library-web-page/comment-page-1/#comment-6501</link>
		<dc:creator>Carrie Macfarlane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your comments, Brenda.  As you may have seen, we&#039;ll be giving a quick update on the LIS site in this afternoon&#039;s all-staff meeting.  In addition, I&#039;ve put it on our list of requested agenda items for an ACS meeting.

The Main Library collections page isn&#039;t finished yet.  There will be a description as you described.  The reason for putting contact info at the top of the page is that we expected some people will look for it on the Collections page rather than the Departments page.  You&#039;re right, perhaps we don&#039;t need redundancy, especially since users might just use &quot;Search&quot; when they&#039;re looking for contact info.  We&#039;re trying to anticipate how different users might look for information; perhaps we&#039;re not guessing right.  We&#039;ll think more about this.

The contents of the &quot;Research Databases&quot; section depend in part on how much we can integrate SubjectsPlus into the site.  We definitely need the A-Z list of databases.  We&#039;d also like this to be the home for New and Trial Databases, and maybe even Most Popular Databases at some point.  We included &quot;By subject&quot; because there was so much distress when we removed it from the current CMS.  Perhaps with &quot;Subject Guides&quot; in the sidebar, if we don&#039;t include &quot;By subject&quot; this time around, no one will miss it.  We&#039;ll think more about this too!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments, Brenda.  As you may have seen, we&#8217;ll be giving a quick update on the LIS site in this afternoon&#8217;s all-staff meeting.  In addition, I&#8217;ve put it on our list of requested agenda items for an ACS meeting.</p>
<p>The Main Library collections page isn&#8217;t finished yet.  There will be a description as you described.  The reason for putting contact info at the top of the page is that we expected some people will look for it on the Collections page rather than the Departments page.  You&#8217;re right, perhaps we don&#8217;t need redundancy, especially since users might just use &#8220;Search&#8221; when they&#8217;re looking for contact info.  We&#8217;re trying to anticipate how different users might look for information; perhaps we&#8217;re not guessing right.  We&#8217;ll think more about this.</p>
<p>The contents of the &#8220;Research Databases&#8221; section depend in part on how much we can integrate SubjectsPlus into the site.  We definitely need the A-Z list of databases.  We&#8217;d also like this to be the home for New and Trial Databases, and maybe even Most Popular Databases at some point.  We included &#8220;By subject&#8221; because there was so much distress when we removed it from the current CMS.  Perhaps with &#8220;Subject Guides&#8221; in the sidebar, if we don&#8217;t include &#8220;By subject&#8221; this time around, no one will miss it.  We&#8217;ll think more about this too!</p>
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		<title>By: Brenda</title>
		<link>http://sites.middlebury.edu/lis/2009/10/15/feedback-on-outline-for-new-library-web-page/comment-page-1/#comment-6241</link>
		<dc:creator>Brenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m still fairly confused by all the dif places to review (the wiki, the word doc, the midd2 mockup) and I have a little trouble deciphering some things on my own and would prefer a demo by some of the team.  But one thing that definitely doesn&#039;t make sense to me is the Library Collections page - Main Library as show here: http://midd2.middlebury.edu/academics/lib/collections/mainlib

I was expecting to see brief descriptions of the various types of collections (gov docs, vt coll, periodicals, foreign language, browsing, microfilms, etc.  Instead I get a department listing.  We already have a spot for that.  Departments aren&#039;t collections.  

Also, I&#039;m pleased to see Subject Guides prominently featured but I don&#039;t know that it makes sense to have a link that says research databases that appears to just be another way of getting to the subject guides.  There&#039;s tons on the subject guides that aren&#039;t databases.  Maybe instead it should be a Research Databases A-Z that links to the new title list.  More comments later.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still fairly confused by all the dif places to review (the wiki, the word doc, the midd2 mockup) and I have a little trouble deciphering some things on my own and would prefer a demo by some of the team.  But one thing that definitely doesn&#8217;t make sense to me is the Library Collections page &#8211; Main Library as show here: <a href="http://midd2.middlebury.edu/academics/lib/collections/mainlib" rel="nofollow">http://midd2.middlebury.edu/academics/lib/collections/mainlib</a></p>
<p>I was expecting to see brief descriptions of the various types of collections (gov docs, vt coll, periodicals, foreign language, browsing, microfilms, etc.  Instead I get a department listing.  We already have a spot for that.  Departments aren&#8217;t collections.  </p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;m pleased to see Subject Guides prominently featured but I don&#8217;t know that it makes sense to have a link that says research databases that appears to just be another way of getting to the subject guides.  There&#8217;s tons on the subject guides that aren&#8217;t databases.  Maybe instead it should be a Research Databases A-Z that links to the new title list.  More comments later.</p>
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		<title>By: Carrie Macfarlane</title>
		<link>http://sites.middlebury.edu/lis/2009/10/15/feedback-on-outline-for-new-library-web-page/comment-page-1/#comment-5461</link>
		<dc:creator>Carrie Macfarlane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s right, we made changes based on:  feedback, our new understanding of the left-hand menu function, and limitations of our Drupal implementation that we learned about as we experimented with it.

Collection Management will go under &quot;Library Departments.&quot;  I worked on this a lot over the weekend, and Bryan worked on it a lot yesterday.  Now Bryan is out unexpectedly.  I&#039;ll see what I can do without him.  We will notify librarians when the site is ready for them to create their pages.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s right, we made changes based on:  feedback, our new understanding of the left-hand menu function, and limitations of our Drupal implementation that we learned about as we experimented with it.</p>
<p>Collection Management will go under &#8220;Library Departments.&#8221;  I worked on this a lot over the weekend, and Bryan worked on it a lot yesterday.  Now Bryan is out unexpectedly.  I&#8217;ll see what I can do without him.  We will notify librarians when the site is ready for them to create their pages.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara Merz</title>
		<link>http://sites.middlebury.edu/lis/2009/10/15/feedback-on-outline-for-new-library-web-page/comment-page-1/#comment-5451</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara Merz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bryan has created a mockup in Drupal which I stumbled across. Worth taking a look....
http://midd2.middlebury.edu/academics/lib
Left menu structure doesn&#039;t seem to match IA at this point. I was going to try to create a Collection Management page to play with but see no place in this mockup at the moment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bryan has created a mockup in Drupal which I stumbled across. Worth taking a look&#8230;.<br />
<a href="http://midd2.middlebury.edu/academics/lib" rel="nofollow">http://midd2.middlebury.edu/academics/lib</a><br />
Left menu structure doesn&#8217;t seem to match IA at this point. I was going to try to create a Collection Management page to play with but see no place in this mockup at the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Carson</title>
		<link>http://sites.middlebury.edu/lis/2009/10/15/feedback-on-outline-for-new-library-web-page/comment-page-1/#comment-5181</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Carson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just a quick response about videos.  Since it&#039;s not very straightforward for MIDCAT users to &quot;find videos&quot;  (which can mean a number of things), I think we want a video tab.  Finding &quot;movies&quot; or &quot;DVDs&quot; has been a common question we get.  Let&#039;s put it right out there.  I seem to remember this discussion when we implemented III, and the videos tab is helpful there.  Let&#039;s feature it more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick response about videos.  Since it&#8217;s not very straightforward for MIDCAT users to &#8220;find videos&#8221;  (which can mean a number of things), I think we want a video tab.  Finding &#8220;movies&#8221; or &#8220;DVDs&#8221; has been a common question we get.  Let&#8217;s put it right out there.  I seem to remember this discussion when we implemented III, and the videos tab is helpful there.  Let&#8217;s feature it more.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara Merz</title>
		<link>http://sites.middlebury.edu/lis/2009/10/15/feedback-on-outline-for-new-library-web-page/comment-page-1/#comment-4961</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara Merz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just a quick explanation of the 2 tabs in the portal for articles. Since there isn&#039;t a single integrated article search, a couple of things we&#039;re considering are Academic One File for arts &amp; humanities and Pubmed for sciences. Each tab could also include a link of the type &quot;For more in-depth coverage of specific topics, consult the appropriate library Subject Guide. &quot;
It is also possible that as well, or instead, we could use a Google Scholar tab. If you have an opinion on that, here&#039;s the place to share it!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick explanation of the 2 tabs in the portal for articles. Since there isn&#8217;t a single integrated article search, a couple of things we&#8217;re considering are Academic One File for arts &amp; humanities and Pubmed for sciences. Each tab could also include a link of the type &#8220;For more in-depth coverage of specific topics, consult the appropriate library Subject Guide. &#8221;<br />
It is also possible that as well, or instead, we could use a Google Scholar tab. If you have an opinion on that, here&#8217;s the place to share it!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jess Isler</title>
		<link>http://sites.middlebury.edu/lis/2009/10/15/feedback-on-outline-for-new-library-web-page/comment-page-1/#comment-4941</link>
		<dc:creator>Jess Isler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I tend to agree with Terry on his Equipment item #5--having equipment scoped in the catalog would be ideal, but having it Collections is okay. 

My additional 2 cents on the idea of putting a tab for Equipment on the portal search: Regardless of whether or not it&#039;s in Collections, I think equipment should definitely NOT be included as a tab in the search portal. I think it makes sense to have library resources, databases, and services in the search portal. I view equipment more as a technology resource, and think it would be out of place next to the other resources we will include there. It shouldn&#039;t be given the equal prominence as proprietary databases or our library catalog (especially since equipment can already be searched VIA the catalog...), especially if it&#039;s included in other places on the Library page (which it will be). Let&#039;s not waste real estate on videos in the search portal, either. There are many other ways to get to videos (via Midcat, subject guides, probably also elsewhere on the site). I&#039;d be way more keen on seeing GoogleScholar as a search portal tab than either equipment or videos!

I also like Terry&#039;s idea of moving Browsing, Fac Authors, and Media into the Main lib section of the Collections page. That not only seems more concise but also more appropriate since those resources are much smaller in scope and size than the other collections included there.

Thanks to you and Bryan for all your hard work so far! It&#039;s going to be such an improvement!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to agree with Terry on his Equipment item #5&#8211;having equipment scoped in the catalog would be ideal, but having it Collections is okay. </p>
<p>My additional 2 cents on the idea of putting a tab for Equipment on the portal search: Regardless of whether or not it&#8217;s in Collections, I think equipment should definitely NOT be included as a tab in the search portal. I think it makes sense to have library resources, databases, and services in the search portal. I view equipment more as a technology resource, and think it would be out of place next to the other resources we will include there. It shouldn&#8217;t be given the equal prominence as proprietary databases or our library catalog (especially since equipment can already be searched VIA the catalog&#8230;), especially if it&#8217;s included in other places on the Library page (which it will be). Let&#8217;s not waste real estate on videos in the search portal, either. There are many other ways to get to videos (via Midcat, subject guides, probably also elsewhere on the site). I&#8217;d be way more keen on seeing GoogleScholar as a search portal tab than either equipment or videos!</p>
<p>I also like Terry&#8217;s idea of moving Browsing, Fac Authors, and Media into the Main lib section of the Collections page. That not only seems more concise but also more appropriate since those resources are much smaller in scope and size than the other collections included there.</p>
<p>Thanks to you and Bryan for all your hard work so far! It&#8217;s going to be such an improvement!</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Simpkins</title>
		<link>http://sites.middlebury.edu/lis/2009/10/15/feedback-on-outline-for-new-library-web-page/comment-page-1/#comment-4931</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Simpkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi all,
Nice job - thank you for all the thought you&#039;ve put into this.  My first impression comments:

1) I think ILL should have a tab under the PORTAL section - heavily used service.
2) PORTAL: I&#039;m unsure why we&#039;d break down Articles into 2 sections.  We live in an interdisciplinary world.
3) PORTAL: Why preference videos?  Why not CDs?  Why not e-books?  Or why not leave out specific formats and rely searching specific collections in MIDCAT if necessary?  (All of these are also already under the &quot;Find...&quot; section.)
4) Collections: a) Browsing, Fac Authors, and &quot;Media&quot; could be well described as part of the Main Library section.  b) Reserves has a tab on the portal, does it really need another one here?  c) What exactly does &quot;Media&quot; mean?  I&#039;ve noticed that we tend to use call the Visual Materials collection the &quot;Media Collection&quot; which is pretty inaccurate (audio recordings are media; online stuff is media), but in general it&#039;s a non-descriptive word with many interpretations.  If we want to highlight the video collection, let&#039;s call it that (sorry for the digression into labeling).
5) Equipment: I&#039;d rather see this scoped within MIDCAT (similar to video and music, etc.), but failing that, I can see the utility of placing this here
6) Under FIND ARTICLES, BOOKS, etc.: OK, where&#039;s this XXX collection you list?  How&#039;d I miss that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all,<br />
Nice job &#8211; thank you for all the thought you&#8217;ve put into this.  My first impression comments:</p>
<p>1) I think ILL should have a tab under the PORTAL section &#8211; heavily used service.<br />
2) PORTAL: I&#8217;m unsure why we&#8217;d break down Articles into 2 sections.  We live in an interdisciplinary world.<br />
3) PORTAL: Why preference videos?  Why not CDs?  Why not e-books?  Or why not leave out specific formats and rely searching specific collections in MIDCAT if necessary?  (All of these are also already under the &#8220;Find&#8230;&#8221; section.)<br />
4) Collections: a) Browsing, Fac Authors, and &#8220;Media&#8221; could be well described as part of the Main Library section.  b) Reserves has a tab on the portal, does it really need another one here?  c) What exactly does &#8220;Media&#8221; mean?  I&#8217;ve noticed that we tend to use call the Visual Materials collection the &#8220;Media Collection&#8221; which is pretty inaccurate (audio recordings are media; online stuff is media), but in general it&#8217;s a non-descriptive word with many interpretations.  If we want to highlight the video collection, let&#8217;s call it that (sorry for the digression into labeling).<br />
5) Equipment: I&#8217;d rather see this scoped within MIDCAT (similar to video and music, etc.), but failing that, I can see the utility of placing this here<br />
6) Under FIND ARTICLES, BOOKS, etc.: OK, where&#8217;s this XXX collection you list?  How&#8217;d I miss that?</p>
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		<title>By: Arabella</title>
		<link>http://sites.middlebury.edu/lis/2009/10/15/feedback-on-outline-for-new-library-web-page/comment-page-1/#comment-4911</link>
		<dc:creator>Arabella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I began this thinking I was going to comment on &quot;too much About&quot; - link in the left menu, link/content down the page, etc.  And I do think there is too much &quot;about the Libraries.&quot;  It looks like duplicate content all over the place (Contact info, for  one).  That&#039;s comment one.

But then I was looking at some of the other library links in your Resource page and see ASU has a Library Toolbar for IE, Firefox or Safari.  (Flash &#039;ad&#039; in the lower left corner of http://lib.asu.edu viewed at 9:06 am Eastern on Oct. 16th.)  Could we get something like that???  In a year or two maybe?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I began this thinking I was going to comment on &#8220;too much About&#8221; &#8211; link in the left menu, link/content down the page, etc.  And I do think there is too much &#8220;about the Libraries.&#8221;  It looks like duplicate content all over the place (Contact info, for  one).  That&#8217;s comment one.</p>
<p>But then I was looking at some of the other library links in your Resource page and see ASU has a Library Toolbar for IE, Firefox or Safari.  (Flash &#8216;ad&#8217; in the lower left corner of <a href="http://lib.asu.edu" rel="nofollow">http://lib.asu.edu</a> viewed at 9:06 am Eastern on Oct. 16th.)  Could we get something like that???  In a year or two maybe?</p>
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